Monday, September 22, 2008

Talking Point #1 Goldberg

110 People Who Are Screwing Up America
Bernard Goldberg

Authors Argument:
Goldberg states that Kozol has too much of a liberal attitude towards the education system. Goldberg argues that Kozols attitude in the education system is highly used and that people don't only use the liberal system but the children leaving these education systems are being turned out with blinders on, and that liberal is the way to be.

Quotes:

1."They got there for lowering the level of civil discourse in this country -- or for their shameless willingness to destroy decent people."
I really enjoyed this quote because it shows how angry Goldberg is about the situation in which peoples morals are being subjected to change, and I really agree with him on that.

2."Once, it was understood by almost everyone that there is no free lunch and that you got yours, as the old commercial had it, "the old-fashioned way" -- you earned it!"
I'm not so sure that I agree fully on this, but in a way I agree. I'm not at the age yet that it truely is hurting my income paying for other people, but I know what it is like to have to work for my money and I think everyone needs to take the initiative to work.

Questions/Comments to share:
This article really did interest me. I thought it was quite entertaining about all the people we see in the media no a days get ripped to pieces. We all see them on TV and think that maybe what they have to say is worthe listening to but will reading Goldberg I began to think, wow maybe they don't really make sense. I was bored by the end because facts don't interst me as much as much as peoples views.

Amazing Grace
The Lives of Children and the Conscience of a Nation
Jonathan Kozol


Authors Argument:
Kozol argues that peoples lives get ripped away from them when tragedy strikes, and illness or misfortunate event happens. He believes that no matter why a person is in the situation they are in they deserve a better life, that the poor, sick, or others deserve to have the same life as those who earned it, whether they did or not. He also argues that even though people live in poor quality homes and towns they deserve to have a good life, without the threat of robbery, shootings, or any other urban city behavior.

Quotes:
1.
"The $150 million spent to build the dazzling new structure..., is almost exactly the same as what they city spent in the same year to purchase the massive prison barge that it has moored at Hunts Point in the South Bronx, where it accommodates the graduates and dropouts of much less attracting high schools on six floating floors of prison cells"
The imagery of this really makes me think about how much money cities and states pay for people who have messed up in the world, rather than spending it on the people who barely can make ends meat.

2."'I am in hell an you are not and so I hate you and I have to try to bring you down to where I am.' I feel pity for them and fear because they're lost."
It seems Kozol is trying to see where these people are coming from and he feels their pain. I liek this quote because I feel the same way, I believe everyone can change how they act but sometimes people just get sucked into living their lives poorly because of the chances they've missed out on.

Questions/Comments:
I really enjoyed reading Kozol, it made me think about how it is to live in an un fair situation. Kozol points out the problems that reallt effect people and why they are in the situations they are in. I'm just confused as to what he was trying to say, that we as people need to change the way we are, or that the goverment and the authorities are the ones that need to take responsibility and change the way people live. kozol and Goldberg should sit down together and come up with an epic plan to get the world in a perfect place.

1 comment:

Dr. Lesley Bogad said...

Hey there,
Did our discussion in clas help clarify some of these issues for you? I think that the biggest issue for Kozol is that the culture of power does a lot of things that perpetuate the cycle of poverty and then blames the poor people for being poor in the first place. Why does Goldberg find Kozol blaming of the system so dangerous?